Posts by The wanderer

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Aposta-Library/Museum

by parakeet in

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in another thread truthseeker revealed that the wts is quietly gathering and burning as many of the old russell and rutherford books and magazines it can get its hands on in order to hide the hill of bones on which its present-day existence was built.

in addition to this effort to hide its sordid past, the wts also warns its followers to immediately dismiss apostate evidence derived from the internet.

i remember thirdwitness challenging posters to "produce" the letter that proved the wts was in cahoots with the u.n. it's so very convenient for jws to ignore "virtual" information because it's difficult to substantiate with original sources.

The wanderer

Dear Parakeet:

I understand the basic concept of the idea, however,
there are some underlying questions surrounding it.
For example, who would really be interested in a
Watchtower library or museum? Other than a witness
or former witness for the most part? Most people
do not like Jehovah's Witnesses.

If it ever did get off of the ground more than likely
the Watchtower Society would find a way to put a stop
to it, or tell the rank and file to not visit the site
because it is not endorsed by the Watchtower Society,
but by the "world".

Although, I do like the fact that you did ask the
question regarding the subject.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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Do you hate Jehovah's Witnesses?

by The wanderer in

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do you hate jehovah's witnesses?

since becoming a member of this board, it has often come.

The wanderer

Dear KidA:

The threads are designed in such a way as to
provoke thought. They are not designed to
take a stand or a position on any matter.

What is essential regarding the threads is
that it gets individuals involved in lively
discussions and in turn helps someone who
maybe going through that particular matter.

Although, you may "hate" what I have to say,
there is a good motivation behind it.

And, that is the bottom line.

The Wanderer

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Do you hate Jehovah's Witnesses?

by The wanderer in

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do you hate jehovah's witnesses?

since becoming a member of this board, it has often come.

The wanderer

Do you hate Jehovah's Witnesses?

Since becoming a member of this board, it has often come
to my attention how much negative attention that Jehovah's
Witnesses receive from some members on this board.

Why the hostility?

Understandably, some, if not most of us on this discussion
board have had one or two incidents regarding individuals
within the organization. But does this justify hating them?

Negative emotions are not healthy

Have you considered the effects on your own health
by holding on to a grudge or having an "ax" to grind?

Personally, I have nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses
in fact, I feel sorry or pity for these misled and lost souls.

Questions for consideration

Do you hate Jehovah's Witnesses or the organization?
Have you worked out your ill will toward them?
What is your general viewpoint of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Please post your commentary for a lively
discussion regarding this matter.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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The argument--whether or not the Devil exists

by The wanderer in

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the argumentwhether or not the devil exists mainstream religions all over the world and not so mainstream.

religions teach of a devil.

the devil is considered to be the.

The wanderer

The argument—whether or not the Devil exists

Mainstream religions all over the world and not so mainstream
religions teach of a devil. The devil is considered to be the
personification of evil and goes by the names of Satan,
Asmodai, Beelzebub, and Lucifer.

The argument can be made

Regardless, if you are an Atheist, Christian, Agnostic or
Evolutionist the fact of the matter is that evil does exist
in this world. But does this justify a devil, being the
cause of it all?

Is there a Devil?

The Bible points to a wicked spirit creature and
for centuries mankind has placed a belief that
such a spirit creature exists.

On the other hand, there is no definite proof
other then paranormal psychology to support
such a being as a "devil" or spirit creature.

Questions to consider

If there is no devil, why is there so much evil
in the world?
If there is a devil, what proof is there besides
the Bible?
What is your individual viewpoint and perspective
on the matter?

Please post your replies for an interesting and
lively discussion of the matter.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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To Benefit the Lurkers and Newbies - tell your story again!!

by AK - Jeff in

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a nice grouping of stories regarding our time in and exit from the borg would aid all the newcomers here.. how about a paragraph or two [the condensed versions] of how we all found ourselves here today?.

jeff .

The wanderer

Dear Jeff:

Great idea! My main reason for leaving the Watchtower
Bible and Tract Society was due to the United Nations
and Watchtower involvement.

Although, there were many "signals" through-out the
years, when the information came out regarding the
NGO-DPI affilation, it spelled the end of being a
true believer.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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What if she never leaves JWs? (The interminable waiting period...)

by AuldSoul in

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this has nothing to do with whether i love my wife.

i always will.. pragmatically, i have come to the devastating conclusion that i don't want to be married to a jw.

any jw.. she asked me last night, "so, do you believe in santa clause, now?

The wanderer

Dear Brandon:

After having read your of account, I must say I am sorry
that you are having to under go these types of circum-
stances.

However, from a positive perspective have you considered
trying some marriage counseling? I am not saying this
is the cure all, just another alternative.

Some kind of pro-action must take place Brandon, because
if it does not, there maybe a "wearing" away of your
love for your wife.

Either way, things need to be talked out and throughly,
because this could become a potentially un-healthy
living situation.

Very Respectfully,

Richard

(The Wanderer)

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Apologists--and your perspective of them

by The wanderer in

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apologists and your perspective of them every so often on this discussion board an individual who.

is a devout supporter and defender of the watchtower.

society makes there appearance known.

The wanderer

Dear Underbeliever:

Being in web design gives me the ability
to design pages in different formats.

However, because this discussion board
limits my abilities to a certain extent
the "Awake" format that I use seems to
be the best at this time.

This discussion board does not really
accept javascript, absolute positioning,
or layers, and so it "forces me" into
this format.

Sorry, if it creeps you out. No hard
feelings please.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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Apologists--and your perspective of them

by The wanderer in

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apologists and your perspective of them every so often on this discussion board an individual who.

is a devout supporter and defender of the watchtower.

society makes there appearance known.

The wanderer

Apologists and your perspective of them

Every so often on this discussion board an individual who
is a devout supporter and defender of the Watchtower
Society makes there appearance known. In other words,
an apologist.

Apologists and the issues they support

It is not important to point a finger and call out the names
of the individuals who engage in such support. What is
important is to isolate the issues they support.

From past threads, the United Nations issue seems to
be one of the main issues that apologists defend the
Watchtower's Society's involvement in.

In addition, the 607 B.C.E and the child molestation topics
also seem to be two out of the three main concerns of the
apologists.

Why do they do it?

Anyone who professes to being one of Jehovah's Witnesses
knows very well that Jehovah's Witnesses are prohibited from
visiting "apostate" web sites such as this one. So the question
regarding this discussion is—Why do they do it?

Questions to consider

Do they come on this web site to solely antagonize individuals?
Do they really believe that what they are doing is right?
Do you think they are in a state of deep denial?

Please provide your opinions and viewpoints
for a lively discussion of the matter.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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Paradise Lost--Paradise Found--The Adventure Begins

by The wanderer in

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paradise foundparadise lostthe adventure begins one of the main attractions about the organization was the.

thought that one day god would restore mankind to perfect.

peace and harmony on a paradise earth.. paradise lost to think about my participation for the last 14 years "selling".

The wanderer

Paradise Found—Paradise Lost—The Adventure Begins

One of the main attractions about the organization was the
thought that one day God would restore mankind to perfect
peace and harmony on a paradise earth.

Paradise Lost

To think about my participation for the last 14 years "selling"
this concept about a paradise earth, only to have that world
shatter into a million pieces—eats at me from time to time.

The Adventure Begins

When you acquire the knowledge that this was a fraud,
when death becomes inevitable and the promise of ever-
lasting life on paradise earth turns up empty, when your
world turns upside down, and inside out, where do you
go from there?

Please post your commentary from your perspective
and rebuilding process in order to help yourself and
others with the same questions in mind .

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

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Why would this even cross my mind?!?!?!?!

by Juniper in

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well, after 10 years of being together, hubby has decided that he's found his 'soul mate' (the second time this year, neither of which was me) and is moving out.. i'm thirty years old and no kids, thanks to the fact that i spent 12 years in full time service telling everyone it's better to wait until the 'new system' for raising a family.

that's all beside the point - and perhaps better suited for my counselor.

:) anyway, the thought that keeps going through my mind is "this never would have happened if i didn't leave" and "how am i going to find someone to spend my life with at this age and who will understand me the way an ex-jw can"???

The wanderer

Dear Juniper:

On the bright side at least you had a husband
for a length of time. Imagine never finding
someone to understand and love you.

Respectfully,

The Wanderer

P.S. If it makes you feel any better I am
single too.